Tuesday, September 6, 2011

HESUS JOY CHRIST / Matthew's One Too! Discussion of verse 17 , and verse nine.

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Since I get such a kick out of blathering on about this stuff, I'm continuing the discussion of the animation HESUS JOY CHRIST / Matthew's One Too!

Verse 17

from The Gospel of Matthew, Chapter One, New International Version

17 Thus there were fourteen generations in all from Abraham to David, fourteen generations from David to the exile to Babylon, and fourteen from the exile to the Christ b .

b 17 Or Messiah, “The Christ” (Greek)

and “the Messiah” (Hebrew)

both mean “the Anointed One.”

Verse 9

from the text of the animation HESUS JOY CHRIST / Matthew's One Too ! Written by R David Foster

9 Thus there was twelve generations established at the first cycle fall . There was nine generations to establish commitment and conclude three generations of matriarchy, initiating purposeful driven animation .

Verse 9 Discussion

NIV Bible text verse 17

There are two reasons I can think of, that would be why one would count up the generations – one would be to make it easy to remember, and the other would be to assert an order on what would otherwise seem random. I have counted the generations of the matrigeneosophy for both of these reasons.

Nominal Matriarch Notes

1 Emily My Mother
2 Linda The girl next door
3 Tina Grade One
4 Patricia Grade Four
5 Mia Grade Six
6 Marcelle Lesser Matriarch
7 - Jacqueline Summer Camp
8 - Marysse Grade Nine
9 - Dorcas Grade Ten
Dana Grade Nine to Thirteen, – then commitment to Marriage, & 1987
11 Kim
12 Wendy The First Cycle Fall

There is however, a certain creativity in how generations can be counted. As discussed previously, the transition can be counted, or the person of the generation can be counted, where one is a transformation that is counted and the other is the person or generation as a noun, that is counted. There are twelve persons in the table, from Emily to Wendy, but there are only eleven transitions between the twelve persons. To establish commitment, there are nine transitions, from Emily to Dana. At the first cycle fall there had been twelve persons. On the other hand, if one counts a transition from the beginning to my mother, Emily, that would add a generation making there to be twelve generations at the first cycle fall.

This is not such a radical idea, as in Asia, one is one year old from the day of their birth, and is two years old from the first anniversary of their birth. As well, does the millenium begin on January first 2000 or 2001 ?

This same creativity is used in counting up the genealogy of Jesus, as Jeconiah is counted as a member of the fourteen persons up to the exile to Babylon, and is also counted as a member of the fourteen persons after the exile to Babylon.

The Genealogy of Jesus



Jeconiah BABYLON


































David King David
Jeconiah BABYLON

This is the answer for anyone who wants closure of a definite and contained infinite person – there is not a closure here, in the geneology of Jesus, to a living infinite purpose, as it is constantly changing yet always the same. Wanting a defined and completely knowable God is satisfied only by idols or models of the infinite. But the infinite, although everywhere, cannot be contained in a finite model or image. Or can it?

In modern physics there is talk of a finite space without bounds. An example would be the two dimensional space of the surface of a sphere. The two dimensional space that forms the surface of a sphere has an area that can be calculated and is finite, but there is not a border to such a two dimensional space. One may travel around and around and never come to a border or edge or limitation, other than that there is only two dimensions.

Three dimensional space may be the same, in that there is not an edge or boundary, yet there may be a finite amount of space. When you add the fourth dimension, time, physicists talk of curved space time in trying to account for gravity. Gravity screws up everything when one tries to account for other aspects of physics. The speed of light is a limit to how fast anything can travel. This may be a sign of the finite amount of three dimensional space.

Containing the infinite has been done by the person Jesus Christ (Colossians 2:9-10). Perhaps we all have infinite aspects. If we could know what is infinite and what is finite, we could tap into the infinite and have access to all. Would we want it though? Surely all the horror we could imagine would be available to us, as well as all the joy and wonder. I have a saying – if you are going to be sensitive you have to be tough. Jesus was sensitive to God's call and the people he encountered. He was tough enough to suffer death. Are we capable of such sensitivity and toughness? Perhaps we would rather stay in our limited state and await a comfortable death. But for those who choose to follow Jesus where he leads, the wonder and joy will follow, if not the horror and suffering.

Marriage is the living model of the infinite that we can follow, in the path of Jesus, as the limited beings that we are, in our journey to the infinite, a life with God on earth, with the infinite infinitely as a finite creation. I would assert that women have infinite wholistic aptitude and men have infinite partial aptitude. Some relationship between the two would create a balance of whole and part, and exist as created. Such a relationship between whole and part can grow without end or boundary. The spouse is the infinite to the other spouse, who brings the other infinite to the first spouse, and joined, creation exists, without bound, yet limited to the extent of the relationship of whole and part.


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